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for instance, when obama is talking during the debate i'll interrupt him and say that's what she said? ha, ha, ha. gets them every time. last week, my campaign leaked a memo telling everyone to lower expectations for my performance in these debates. as we all know barack obama is an extremely gifted speaker. you might even say he's a master debater. that's what she said? you got zing. you got zing. >> i don't know, man. fallen is giving zadakas a run for his moment on this romney impression. >>> here's the latest. >> mr. president, china is demanding that the u.s. pay back its debt in full immediately. failure to do so will bring on financial apocalypse. you need to look into that camera and convince the people of china we are good to pay back that debt. >> why you got to play me like that, china? when you loan that money to my predecessors, did you really think you were going to get it back? >> china's not budging but we have just had the results back from your latest presidential physical and it tornadoes out you have telepathic powers. look into that camera and convince the chinese
for instance, when obama is talking during the debate i'll interrupt him and say that's what she said? ha, ha, ha. gets them every time. last week, my campaign leaked a memo telling everyone to lower expectations for my performance in these debates. as we all know barack obama is an extremely gifted speaker. you might even say he's a master debater. that's what she said? you got zing. you got zing. >> i don't know, man. fallen is giving zadakas a run for his moment on this romney...
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grandmother during the debate which said, quote, obama's gam even knew he was going to be bad. she died three days before he became president." the company has apologized and said it was sent in error. >>> mitt romney's wife ann will fill in on "good morning america" as co-host robin roberts recovers from a bone marrow transplant. >>> and the first lady was asked by popsugar.com who she'd like to see play her husband in a movie. she said she had two choices. either will smith or denzel washington. what do you think? who would you choose to play barack obama? you can tell me on twitter. go to @lynnberry or head to facebook.com. that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now to wall street. the dow closinged at 13,575 after gaining 80 points yesterday. the s&p was up 10. the nasdaq add 14. taking a look at overseas trading this morning. in tokyo, the nikkei inched up 38 points. the hang seng climbed 104. the s&p is on the cusp of a five-year high. barring any surprises from september's job reports, it could hit that high today. experts predict about 115,000 jobs wer
grandmother during the debate which said, quote, obama's gam even knew he was going to be bad. she died three days before he became president." the company has apologized and said it was sent in error. >>> mitt romney's wife ann will fill in on "good morning america" as co-host robin roberts recovers from a bone marrow transplant. >>> and the first lady was asked by popsugar.com who she'd like to see play her husband in a movie. she said she had two choices....
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debate, then governor romney should ask for president obama's college records and applications. you really think he should do ha? >> absolutely. i don't know that he will. i hope he does. maybe one of the mod raters will do t. it's a question that she we should know and an answer we should know. he is supposed to be the transparent president. he is the least transparent president in the history this country. many people have done it. many people have given those records and many presidents have given them. there would be nothing wrong with him going it. >> greta: suppose it's the modserator and president obama is just fine with the number of tax returns that governor rom romney has turned over and it's the modserator, jim lehrer, who says tdo you want governor romney to blurt out, i want to see his college records? >> i don't know if they are going to be just fine f. he knew he had to do this, he would be just fine f. president obama knew he had to give these records and application, i think he would never mention the word tax return. they have gone after mitt romney to a fair 3
debate, then governor romney should ask for president obama's college records and applications. you really think he should do ha? >> absolutely. i don't know that he will. i hope he does. maybe one of the mod raters will do t. it's a question that she we should know and an answer we should know. he is supposed to be the transparent president. he is the least transparent president in the history this country. many people have done it. many people have given those records and many...
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, because i've debated barak obama twice, i mean, he's not jimmy carter. reagan was the template who destroyed carter. but obama is much quicker than jimmy carter was. now, i don't think mitt romney is a confrontational man, am i correct on that assessment? he's not me. he's not looking for the fight. he doesn't relish the debate. >> that's what happened the first probably 15 primary debates. he stayed out of the fray and just sort of gave his mental. that's right. and let everybody else beat each other up. >> bill: but this time he has to prove himself to the american people which president obama doesn't have to prove himself. he's a known quantity. you like him, you don't. it's the people in the middle you're after. mitt romney still has to prove himself. so the burden in the debate is on the governor or am i wrong? >> no, i think you're absolutely right. while the challenger gets elevated by being on the stage with the president, clearly the president, he's on the mountain top. he's the victor, he won the last set of debates. he's the president. and so
, because i've debated barak obama twice, i mean, he's not jimmy carter. reagan was the template who destroyed carter. but obama is much quicker than jimmy carter was. now, i don't think mitt romney is a confrontational man, am i correct on that assessment? he's not me. he's not looking for the fight. he doesn't relish the debate. >> that's what happened the first probably 15 primary debates. he stayed out of the fray and just sort of gave his mental. that's right. and let everybody else...
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president obama and mitt romney gearing up for their first debate. we're going to look back at memorable moments of past presidential debates. here the top three. here is frank luntz. do you think we'll see any of those big moments on wednesday night that define the campaign? >> that is the key. it's not the issues and numbers. voters remember specific phrases that candidates put together at key moments. now, the most important aspect has got to appear candid and got to touch people to make it memorable. let's take the first one. ronald reagan, 1981 presidential impact and had a huge impact. >> next tuesday, you will go to the polls and stand there in the polling place and make a decision. i think when you make that decision you need to ask yourself, are you better off than you were four years ago. is it easier for you to go and buy things in the store than it was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there were four years ago? is america as respected throughout the world? >> we heard so many campaigns, are you better
president obama and mitt romney gearing up for their first debate. we're going to look back at memorable moments of past presidential debates. here the top three. here is frank luntz. do you think we'll see any of those big moments on wednesday night that define the campaign? >> that is the key. it's not the issues and numbers. voters remember specific phrases that candidates put together at key moments. now, the most important aspect has got to appear candid and got to touch people to...
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. >> -- most people think barack obama is going to win tonight's debate by a lot. who knows who's going to win. a lot of people forget mitt romney had 20 presidential debates under his belt in this past republican presidential primary, but barack obama, former law professor from harvard, does pretty well behind the podium. we'll know the answer about 11:00 eastern time tonight. >> you excited? >> i'm very excited. i'm up right now. it's 4:00 right now in denver. i'm not the only one up getting ready for tonight's debate. >> mark preston live for us in denver. thank you very much. >>> in tonight's debates some say you should look for quirks with candidates. to some viewers, delivery, tone, body language can be just as important as the substance of what some candidates say. when mitt romney is agitated, they say his arms apparently flail a bit. also president obama has an issue with long windedness. some debate watchers say that about him. both candidates seem to do well when they are standing behind podiums. so, i don't know, do you think it's going to be really cra
. >> -- most people think barack obama is going to win tonight's debate by a lot. who knows who's going to win. a lot of people forget mitt romney had 20 presidential debates under his belt in this past republican presidential primary, but barack obama, former law professor from harvard, does pretty well behind the podium. we'll know the answer about 11:00 eastern time tonight. >> you excited? >> i'm very excited. i'm up right now. it's 4:00 right now in denver. i'm not the...
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professor obama, not without his own weaknesses, hasn't debated since 2008. he's been long winded, professorial. no offense. and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so efacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line, and it's a contrast between the two of them that hurts him in that clip. >> especially in the double box. professor schroeder, thank you for being with us and patrick millsaps. 50 million people expected to watch. 150 million people killed in syria. what an opposition spokesman is saying about the call for a dialog, next. about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget ho
professor obama, not without his own weaknesses, hasn't debated since 2008. he's been long winded, professorial. no offense. and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so efacing and...
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mitt romney's strategy for the all important debate against president obama. >> i think what people are going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours before the debate and mr. ryan laid it all out. >> chris: i suspect he didn't give all the secrets away but he says romney has to make eight choice. it would seem obvious but up until now the komz campaign has been talking about a referendum on obama, it's all about obama's record and they have to show that romney is a credible alternative. now, they are saying, no. it's a choice between obama's record and plan for the future which they say are stagnation for the economy and dependency by more and more people versus romney's plan for opportunity and growth. they clearly decided it has to be contrasting vision
mitt romney's strategy for the all important debate against president obama. >> i think what people are going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours...
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i've listened to a lot of the debates, and not necessarily the debates between romney and obama, but debates with people and it seems like the camps are split. i just want someone to grab hold of the reins and make this company -- or make this country and this company all it can be. >> you came to new york, with $150. bought 20 pairs of bell bottom jeans and sold in your small town and off went the hilfiger empire. do you think you could still do that today? >> i think a lot of people are doing that. maybe not with $150, but people are starting small businesses and growing them. there are lots of examples now, and it's not only in america, but worldwide. so i think if you have a desire and where there is a will, there is a way. you need a dream, you need to build a great product and have a very specific roadmap. >> one of the great fashion icons of my lifetime in my studio and not get a fashion verdict on great political leaders. barack obama first. a little picture there. what is your view? >> he is much better off in a suit than -- than colored trousers or chino trousers. >> this i
i've listened to a lot of the debates, and not necessarily the debates between romney and obama, but debates with people and it seems like the camps are split. i just want someone to grab hold of the reins and make this company -- or make this country and this company all it can be. >> you came to new york, with $150. bought 20 pairs of bell bottom jeans and sold in your small town and off went the hilfiger empire. do you think you could still do that today? >> i think a lot of...
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romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> trac
romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy....
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we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i want the american people to know we've added private-sector jobs for the last 30 months and we're headed in the right direction. how hard is that to say? is that hard? >> ezra klein is coming up to check some of the money numbers that we did hear tonight. we're mad about the numbers that were not articulated as we check the one that were. our live coverage of the first presidential debate. stay with us. >> this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big bold idea is, never mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's
we've soon barack obama debate better than he did tonight. has the presidency changed himself so much that he can't go back to being a good debater? this is what he's like now? >> that's the $64 question. if what we saw tonight is what we see in the next two debates, president obama is going to be in serious trouble. how is this going to play in ohio? he has to make the case to the middle class that he's headed in the right direction with the economy. >> not one time did he say i...
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said 53% think president obama will do better for them than mitt romney at 43%. how does he overcome that? >> i think wednesday night hit the restart button. they are ready to go. about a month to talk about his plan and i think what you saw on wednesday night, it wasn't the 30 second spots being defined by barack obama. it was mitt romney speaking unfiltered to voters for 90 seconds. he was in their living rim and they liked what they heard. >> jamal, shoot straight with me on this. if i'm a democrat, sitting around watching this, mitt romney connected wednesday night. it has got to make you little bit nervous to say this is a magic bullet that barack obama has. now, he has. doesn't this make you a little edit twitchy? >> oh, it makes a lot of people twitchy. i wrote a column about this. democrats have been getting a little confidence, maybe smug, that the poll mbers continue away from mitt romney. knock on one more door, ring one more phone, to try to turn voters out, but ultimately, the president, by the way, barack obama's one of the most competitive people w
said 53% think president obama will do better for them than mitt romney at 43%. how does he overcome that? >> i think wednesday night hit the restart button. they are ready to go. about a month to talk about his plan and i think what you saw on wednesday night, it wasn't the 30 second spots being defined by barack obama. it was mitt romney speaking unfiltered to voters for 90 seconds. he was in their living rim and they liked what they heard. >> jamal, shoot straight with me on...
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the barack obama i heard on the debate stage was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. and it is not surprising to me that he didn't argue it very well and the other thing is despite his reputation as being this world class orator, maybe he is with a set piece speech. there was not a lot of evidence in the past that he was ever a great debater. i don't think this thing was as big a shock as the president's supporters on the left feel. i think they all thought he was 10 feet tall. he is not 10 feet tall. never has been. >> chris: about the specific issue of the truth squadding, fact checking of romney, and they continue to press. i don't think it is a very accurate thing, the $5 trillion tax cut and ta
the barack obama i heard on the debate stage was the barack obama i have been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case and i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and therefore a weak case. and it is not...
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question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off again, second debate for them. and it comes as a new poll is out showing a mass shift in massachusetts. and joip our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. this is my song pick of the day. [ male announcer ] your mouth is cleanest after a dentist visit. ♪ but between check-ups, it goes through a
question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground...
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the obama camp is promising what it calls strategic adjustments for the next debate in 13 days. tax policy was one of the most hotly contested issues. jim range the separates fact from fiction. we have new information about the internal obama administration debate about what to call the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in libya. this comes as we hear an f.b.i. team has come and gone from benghazi. world leader turns 60 in style. "special report" from washington starts at 6 eastern. now we'll send it back to new york with my colleagues with "the five". >> last night it was tk obama at the first debate in denver. how did he react today? >> so you see the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> so kimberly, a little different today than last night, huh? >> well,
the obama camp is promising what it calls strategic adjustments for the next debate in 13 days. tax policy was one of the most hotly contested issues. jim range the separates fact from fiction. we have new information about the internal obama administration debate about what to call the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in libya. this comes as we hear an f.b.i. team has come and gone from benghazi. world leader turns 60 in style. "special report" from washington starts at 6 eastern....
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president. >> obama: i want to thank the university of denver. ♪ >> debates are better. >> eliot: that was more fun to watch. the voter i.d. law stalls in pennsylvania. that's next on "viewpoint." economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. >> eliot: it was supposed to be the thing that would help mitt romney win the state of pennsylvania. don't take my word for it. here's pennsylvania state house republican leader mike turzai in june. >> voter i.d. which will allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> eliot: actually, not quite done. on tuesday, a pennsylvania judge ruled that state officials cannot enforce this controversial new law in next month's presidential
president. >> obama: i want to thank the university of denver. ♪ >> debates are better. >> eliot: that was more fun to watch. the voter i.d. law stalls in pennsylvania. that's next on "viewpoint." economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their...
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. >> tonight on huckabee, as mitt romney prepares to debate president obama in the presidential debate, and give advice on what undecided voters want to hear. and tough questions for the republican challenger. and for the president, is the mainstream media tipping the scales toward the left? pat buchanan speaks out. plus, corruption, crime, chaos, documentary phil make -- film maker says it's business as usual at the united nations. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause] >> hello, everybody, thank you. great group of folks we have here and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. all right, last week on this show, i told you that your government had lied to you about the attacks in egypt and libya when they claimed they were just acts of a spontaneous mob in reaction it a youtube video. i said then and i repeat now, i normally would not have used such strong language and made such a bold declaration, but the continuing revelations confirmed that my statement was not an exaggeration. our government had lied to us, and they did it knowingly. ou
. >> tonight on huckabee, as mitt romney prepares to debate president obama in the presidential debate, and give advice on what undecided voters want to hear. and tough questions for the republican challenger. and for the president, is the mainstream media tipping the scales toward the left? pat buchanan speaks out. plus, corruption, crime, chaos, documentary phil make -- film maker says it's business as usual at the united nations. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee....
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now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if governor romney is writing op-eds 48 hours before that's supposed to be about economy and domestic policy that he's trying to send a signal to jim laird that he wants libya brought up? >> i don't think he's going to mind if libya's brought up. it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look
now, president obama is a good debater. i think generally what governor kritty was saying is when the stakes are this high in an election like this, when you have -- when you've added $5 trillion in debt and we have the worst economy since the great depression and now we're seeing our foreign policy collapse around the world, they tend to be independent voters anyway and they tend to focus on the debate. the debates are significant, and i would agree with that? is it pretty clear that if...
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president obama and mitt romney today both candidates are hunkering down preparing for what could be a pivotal night in this race. wow sounds fun but it's also a murmur reported to remember that the us elections are the only important elections happening in the world it's been a big year for elections one of which is coming up in just a few days then a swale is on the eve of a critical election the sunday race is between president hu go chavez and u.k. and a preview of these elections are particularly important given by this whalers geo political significance in the region hugo chavez has kept control of the country for over a decade on one hand his government has had several accomplishments one of which is an inclusive democratic process democratic participation for millions of people despite widespread claims that venezuela's elections have been marred with fraud a former u.s. president jimmy carter whose organization will be monitoring the elections said in september but as a matter of fact out of ninety two elections that we've monitored i would say that the election process in v
president obama and mitt romney today both candidates are hunkering down preparing for what could be a pivotal night in this race. wow sounds fun but it's also a murmur reported to remember that the us elections are the only important elections happening in the world it's been a big year for elections one of which is coming up in just a few days then a swale is on the eve of a critical election the sunday race is between president hu go chavez and u.k. and a preview of these elections are...
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he's playing the role of president obama in these mock debates and done this for republicans in the past cycles. on the other side, senator john kerry of massachusetts, playing the role of fellow massachusetts mitt romney and john kerry knows a bit about debating, the democrats' 2004 nominee. and mitt romney goes to colorado monday and the debate is wednesday. besides the preparation, we're seeing both campaigns trying to low low expectations. not just campaigns, listen to governor romney. >> he's president of the united states and an eloquent speaker. >> he's a very eloquent speaker and in his debate last time with senator mccain, he'll be very eloquent. >> reporter: the whole idea is lower the bar and if you're doing well you beat expectations and win the debate, the spin they're playing. listen to stephanie from the obama campaign. >> what history tells us that challengers normally win the first debate just by the fact they're standing on the stage with the president. that elevates them and normally come into this as underdogs. we're coming into this very realistic mitt romney is like
he's playing the role of president obama in these mock debates and done this for republicans in the past cycles. on the other side, senator john kerry of massachusetts, playing the role of fellow massachusetts mitt romney and john kerry knows a bit about debating, the democrats' 2004 nominee. and mitt romney goes to colorado monday and the debate is wednesday. besides the preparation, we're seeing both campaigns trying to low low expectations. not just campaigns, listen to governor romney....
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look at obama being in the lead nationally and in these targeted states, going into the debate, if, if we sort of change that debate narrative and obama won it and then these numbers come out, people already starting to talk about the race being over. i think it would be even more significant. so just really points up how big that debate performance of romney was to overcome all this news that's been working against him for a while now. jenna: that is interesting painting that other scenario if it didn't happen that way but it did. in the news cycle over next several days, does it wipe out the debate performance by the president because these new numbers look more positive than expected? >> doesn't wipe it out. romney would much rather have these 8.3 and rising and the 7.8% does talk, let him talk about you who the recovery's moving apace. the more significant thing, jenna, though is what the polls were saying before any of this. suddenly we were seeing 57% of americans starting to say that they thought the country was in recovery. only 43% thought it wasn't. there is a real feeling ou
look at obama being in the lead nationally and in these targeted states, going into the debate, if, if we sort of change that debate narrative and obama won it and then these numbers come out, people already starting to talk about the race being over. i think it would be even more significant. so just really points up how big that debate performance of romney was to overcome all this news that's been working against him for a while now. jenna: that is interesting painting that other scenario if...